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-offs for national security and we just can't go there. >> does chuck hagel get this? can he do the job in your opinion? is he aware of these argue ents? >> i certainly believe so. i think he has talked about a bloated defense enterprise. i certainly hope he will take some of these issues on if he is confirmed. >> once again just to conclude and we appreciate your time very, very much. we can protect our national security as we must but at the same time we can slim down the defense department, we can make some cuts. that's what you're saying? >> i believe that's what we can do if we take the cuts in the right place. >> michelle flournoy, former undersecretary of defense under president obama, we appreciate it very much. thank you. >> now, folks, prepare yourself, america the mighty, ann coulter is about to join us. there's a lot that happened today that we'll have to ask her about that include new revelations about benz and the controversial drone program. you don't want to miss this discussion. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you
hagel. it just seems like the president is totally disengaged. no one vetted this guy. it's just crony capitalism, as you said. and the president spoke so vehemently for so long that this was something he was going to put a stop to. >> that's a key point. he talked about transparency and we're not going to have a revolving door. senator, tim geithner made a mistake with his taxes and corrected it and apologized. he apologized on the air, he apologized right here at a conference room. we had a meeting with the guy. this guy lew is sitting around saying i don't know, i don't remember. and these contracts are sweetheart deals and favoritism and revolving door, the type obama said he would stop. >> well, you know, it's a hard thing, but i do think this second term appointment of people in the cabinet, treasury secretary has always been such a plum job and it's been really high quality people. and i don't know jack lew. i've met with him a couple of times, of course. but i had no idea that he had this background. so, you know, i would think he would be forthcoming on the questions and appar
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